News Archive
- Oct. 2004
Oct. 29th
Cure playing live in Italy
on Nov. 18th:
"Just a short note
for all Italian fans who live in Rome. The MTV Italian channel
said that The Cure will perform live with lots of Italian (Elisa
and Carmen Consoli) and International guest stars in a show that will
be aired the same day of the MTV Europe Music Awards. (18/11/2004)."
Updates: "Hi, I've
called the Mtv Infoline this morning and a gentle girl told me
that The Cure will play with other artists in the afternoon 18th
before
the real MTV Awards ceremony. It will be a free
concert and they still don't know the place (it will be a square)."
"MTV LIVE IN ROME (18 nov 2004 Roma, Colosseo)
there will be a free concert with many bands and The Cure too!"
(Thanks Cristiano, Carmine and Roberta)
More talk of Robert on Billy
Corgan's solo album:
"Saw billy corgan on dennis millers
show last night. He talked a little about his new solo album.
When asked if he wrote everything on the album billy replied that
yes he wrote everything except for one song which he and Robert Smith
wrote. And apparently Robert sings on it with corgan as well,"
(Thanks James)
Happy Birthday and Best Wishes
to Roger O'Donnell. Cheers!
(Thanks Andrew)
Looking for a Fender Bass
VI?
"I have something for
sale on ebay in the UK cure fans might be interested in - an original
Fender
VI bass. Very rare in the UK!"
(Thanks Phil)
"I'm not sure of you've
been informed about this or not, but you can vote for your favourite
album at www.mtv2europe.com
- Disintegration and Boy's Don'y Cry are on the
list.
(Thanks Damien)
Oct. 28th
Reports about last night's
appearance on the Tim Lovejoy show:
"There was a short
3 minute interview with Robert, nothing interesting came out
of it only that Tim Lovejoy said 'you're going to be playing
you're new single' before correcting himself 'sorry its a track
from the new album, Never'. He also commented on Robert being the
only person to perform on the same Top of the Pops show with two
different bands. They closed the show with Never and I can honestly
say the sound was absolutely awful. And Robert must of had a cold or
something cause his vocals were almost spoken throughout and there was
no passionate ending like on the album version of the song. Disappointing
after last weeks Jools Holland performance which was perfection."
(Thanks Tom)
"Just got back from watching the Tim Lovejoy
show.
The Cure played "Never" live and then played
a cracking version of 10.15 Saturday Night after the show had
finished.
Just wanted to let you know a few things..
- after 22 years of watching them live I finally
got to shake Roberts hand!
- I spoke to Perry who said that they are
"pencilled in" for a gig in the UK at the start of December.
He said he honestly didn't know where or when!
- I also spoke to Jason who said he didn't
know when they would play in the UK next.
- I also chattted to Tim Lovejoy and got the
impression that many people were unhappy about the fact that
they played Never as they were expecting either Taking off or Boys
Don't Cry.
- The band didn't come to the after show for
some reason.
- Robert was also interviewed and came across
really well. He seemed happy but told a few of us that he was
embarrased by the whole thing!!!"
(Thanks Anonymous)
Robert
on Billy Corgan's solo album?
"Just wanted to let
you know that when Billy Corgan was in Seattle yesterday, he
mentioned on the local radio station 1077 The End that Robert will
be appearing on one track of his solo album. No mention of
what the song was called though, sorry!"
(Thanks Eric)
Looks like the Black Session
will air on Dec. 6th:
"I just found this on the website from
French radio station where THE CURE recorded a 'Black Session'
a few weeks ago:
http://www.radiofrance.fr/chaines/france-inter01/emissions/lenoir/
BLACK SESSION ____ 06.déc.'04 20h >
22h ____
C'est Lenoir créait l'événement
musical du mois d'octobre en recevant The Cure pour une black
session exceptionnelle à plus d'un titre...Enregistrée
à la Maison de Radio France le vendredi 15 octobre à
18h30, elle sera diffusée le lundi 6 décembre de
20h à 22h."
(Thanks Fabien G and
Dennis)
In case you missed it the first
time, or want to hear it again, The Cure's XFM session is on-line:
The Cure Live In
Session
Legends of rare stature, The Cure are truly
timeless. With their new, self-titled album winning them a
new generation of fans, the five-piece brought their fiery, profound
and influential music to the Xfm studios. To hear the Xfm live
session, go to: http://www.xfm.co.uk/Article.asp?b=multimedia&id=45228
(Thanks Nina)
'Taking Off' has entered the
Italian singles chart at #21.
(Thanks Yohichi)
Abbey gets more well deserved
praise for her lighting designs:
"There is a feature
article on Abbey Rosen Holmes (The Cure's lighting designer)
in the October edition of Lighting Dimensions magazine.
It focuses on the lighting design for the Trilogy and Curiosa shows.
Includes 8 full stage color photos of the band performing durring
some of the more impressive lighting/projection effects."
Anyone have scans of
the article/photos?
(Thanks Joe)
An update from David about
his book "After The Rain...":
"My name is David
Fargier. As you may know, I’ve just written a book about The
Cure, called « After the rain… ». The ideas that motivated
me to carry this project through were independence and sharing
with fans.
Independence because I wanted total freedom
to choose not only the texts but also pictures and graphics.
To convince myself that it was possible, I couldn’t have found a
better example to follow then The Cure themselves
Sharing, because after being assured by a
few people that my work could be of interest to others, I wanted
to have the book translated into other languages and to distribute
it via the Internet worldwide to enable the greatest number of people
to have easy access to it.
After a few thousand of hours of work, a lot
of discussions, hundreds of emails exchanged with other people
who share my passion, a real international team was build up
to help me reach my aim.
We’re not at the end of the road yet, because
we can only publish a translated copy of the book if we get
minimum number of orders, but we’re full of hope. To take that
kind of financial risk, we need you to support our project and help
spread the information widely. That’s why we now kindly appeal you to
help us make this book known.
« After the rain… » Editions Vents
d’Orage. 140 coloured pages, 23,5 X 23,5 cm , rigid cover. Contains
a complete biography from 1979 to nowadays, review of every album,
selection of the best French press articles, portrait of the lead-singer
Robert Smith, enlightened by about sixty photos, rare or unreleased.
Released in French, English, German, Portuguese, Spanish and Italian,
via the Internet site www.after-the-rain.com
(pre orders by cheques or Paypal system)"
(Thanks David)
More info on the National guitars:
"Just had to mail
you about the incorrect identification of those national guitars
on your news page. Ok I've been collecting national guitars for
15 or so years and own 12 of them(different models of course!).
Robert Smith bought his national from Fat Rick in denmark street in
about 88. He used to work in Vintage and Rare from where I have bought
many guitars. Robert did indeed have one requirement when buying guitars
'it's gotta be black!'. Anyway the guitar on ebay right now is a wooden
bodied National Westwood 77 which is one of the most common nationals
and probably the least valuable. Robert Smith's guitar he bought
in 88 is a modified(different bridge and tuners to make it more stable)
reso-glass 1963 National Val-Pro 88 also known as a Newport 88. A
much rarer and more valuable guitar all together. I have the exact same
guitar and paid £1000 for it from music ground in 1990. There
is no such thing as a '1960's National Val Pro black "Glenwood 99'
Glenwoods are totally different shaped guitar, never came in black (they
were green red or white) and had a tremolo arm. 100% not what Robert plays.
If anyone wants to learn about Nationals this is a pretty good webpage
with all the models explained including the unique bridge transducer. http://www.provide.net/~cfh/national.html
"
(Thanks Phil)
"Taking off video
had its debut in MTV Brazil yesterday. They had this brief Cure
bio stuff before the video, with the usual "influenced by"
(Bowie, Siouxsie, Joy) influenced who (a few
brazilian bands, Pumpkins, Hot Hot Heat) and the "definitive
album" (head on the door!). In the end, the VJ just sighed out
loud... an approval?"
(Thanks BACO)
Oct. 27th
Happy Birthday and Best Wishes
to Daryl Bamonte. Cheers!
Here's the Rhino press release
for the 3IB remastered cd:
WHO NEEDS FLU SHOTS
WHEN RHINO HAS THE CURE!
Highly Anticipated Cure Reissue Campaign
Begins With Expanded, Remastered THREE IMAGINARY BOYS December
7
LOS ANGELES - Twenty-five years after The
Cure began their global pop invasion with their debut disc,
THREE IMAGINARY BOYS, Rhino Records gives the album its first-ever
U.S. domestic release with a deluxe two-disc edition loaded with
previously unreleased tracks. THREE IMAGINARY BOYS will be available
December 7 at all retail outlets and at www.rhino.com for a suggested
retail price of $18.98.
The album marks the kickoff to Rhino Records'
revitalization of The Cure catalog. Each title will receive
a sonic upgrade and be released as a
deluxe double-disc set featuring the original
album on one CD and numerous rarities on the other. In addition,
each release will come with a 16-page
booklet filled with photos and tour memorabilia
from the personal archives of vocalist Robert Smith, as well
as a track-by-track commentary and notes by U.K. music scribe
Johnny Black.
Cure fans have long clamored for THREE IMAGINARY
BOYS, an energetic 1979 U.K. debut which features "10:15 Saturday
Night," "Grinding Halt," "Fire In Cairo," and a quirky rendition
of Jimi Hendrix's "Foxy Lady." The band's debut U.S. album, Boys
Don't Cry, featured many of the songs on THREE IMAGINARY BOYS
along with singles like "Jumping Someone Else's Train" and "Boys
Don't Cry." The Rhino reissue offers the original U.K. album with
an added previously unreleased instrumental ("The Weedy Burton"),
as well as a 20-track bonus disc which includes the additional
tracks from Boys Don't Cry, previously unreleased studio and home
demo versions, live renditions, and other curiosities. In total
the package includes six previously unreleased songs, eight previously
unreleased versions of songs, and 17 tracks never before available
on CD.
Johnny Black's liner notes, which make use
of extensive and exclusive interviews with Robert Smith, provide
fascinating insight into the making
of this classic album. One interesting story
tells how The Cure managed to get the album recorded with
virtually no budget: they simply snuck into
Morgan Studios at night once the Jam had
finished their sessions, and, using the Jam's gear, recorded
through the night till dawn.
It's been almost three decades since a 17-year-old
Smith formed The Easy Cure in Crawley, England. Despite various
lineup changes, The Cure have
forged an ongoing career highlighted by an
astonishing run of artistic and commercial successes, including
chart-topping hit singles, gold and
platinum records, countless awards, critical
acclaim, and an international fan base that follows the band
with religious fervor. They have secured
their place in music history by shaping modern
rock as we know it today.
#####
THREE IMAGINARY BOYS
DISC ONE
1. 10:15 Saturday Night
2. Accuracy
3. Grinding Halt
4. Another Day
5. Object
6. Subway Song
7. Foxy Lady
8. Meathook
9. So What
10. Fire In Cairo
11. It's Not You
12. Three Imaginary Boys
13. The Weedy Burton *
DISC TWO
1. I Want To Be Old (SAV Studio Demo 10/77)
*
2. I'm Cold (SAV Studio Demo 11/77) **
3. Heroin Face (Live In The Rocket 12/77)
4. I Just Need Myself (PSL Studio Demo 1/78)
*
5. 10:15 Saturday Night (Home Demo 2/78)
**
6. The Cocktail Party (Group Home Demo 3/78)
*
7. Grinding Halt (Group Home Demo 4/78) **
8. Boys Don't Cry (Chestnut Studio Demo 5/78)
9. It's Not You (Chestnut Studio Demo 5/78)
**
10. 10:15 Saturday Night (Chestnut Studio
Demo 5/78) **
11. Fire In Cairo (Chestnut Studio Demo 5/78)
**
12. Winter (THREE IMAGINARY BOYS Studio Out-Take
Cassette 10/78) *
13. Faded Smiles (aka I Don't Know) (THREE
IMAGINARY BOYS Studio Out-Take
Cassette 10/78) *
14. Play With Me (THREE IMAGINARY BOYS Studio
Out-Take Cassette 10/78) *
15. World War (on early copies of BOYS DON'T
CRY album 1979)
16. Boys Don't Cry (Single‹also on BOYS DON'T
CRY album 1979)
17. Jumping Someone Else's Train (Single-also
on BOYS DON'T CRY album 1979)
18. Subway Song (Live In Nottingham 10/79)
19. Accuracy (Live In Nottingham 10/79) **
20. 10:15 Saturday Night (Live In Nottingham
10/79) **
* Previously Unreleased Song / Instrumental
** Previously Unreleased Version
Still no mention of 'Killing An Arab', though
it could just be unlisted, for obvious reasons. You can see the
Sell Sheet for 3IB at The
Ideal Copy.
(Thanks Jason and Chris)
"I don't know if
everyone is aware of this, but I came across what looks like
a Cure special on my TiVo. It is a half an hour program
titled "Cure: The End of the World" and it is on a music station
that I am not so familiar with called Trio. I am from Orange
County, CA. This show is scheduled to air on 11/2 at 4:30 p.m."
I'm guessing this
will just be the Making of TEOTW video from MTV.
(Thanks Shauna)
And a Cure special on MuchMoreMusic:
"The canadian music chanel 'much more
music' is going to air the cure "mmm bio" at 10pm this friday.
there will be a repeat of the show the following
sunday at 2pm. this is what the website has
to say about the band:
"The Story of...The Cure
The Cure has gone on to be one of the most
enduring and popular bands that emerged in the immediate aftermath
of punk rock in the late '70s. Led
through numerous incarnations by guitarist/vocalist
Robert Smith, the band became notorious for easily bouncing
between their slow, gloomy dirges to
some of pop's most catchiest songs. With
2004 marking the 25th anniversary for the alt-rock legends,
MMM offers up The Story of...The Cure - featuring Bill Welychka's
exclusive interview with Robert Smith, and containing rare and
archival footage."
all of this is a repeat i believe. they've
been showing this 'bio' back before they even had a 'bio' segment
and it was called 'the story of'. but i'm happy because the vhs
i had it on was eaten. so happy cure friday everyone."
(Thanks Velvetcure,
Iqbal, Kathy)
Cure featured on new 99X cd:
"In case you haven't
heard from anyone yet. 99X in Atlanta is releasing a new
Live X CD. Robert Smith did the cover art and there is a
live version of Taking Off on the album. You can get more info
at 99X.com"
Actually, it's a solo
version of 'Taking Off' that Robert did in his home studio.
(Thanks Rebekah)
(Thanks Stephen,
David, Marco, Brandon)
DotMusic reviews 'Taking Off':
The Cure - 'Taking Off'
(Tuesday October 26, 2004 4:26 PM )
Released on 18/10/2004
Label: Geffen
It’s poppy, and it’s romantic, but it’s no
"Friday I’m In Love"; it’s not even one of latest album "The
Cure"'s standout tracks, so it’s hard to see what purpose this
crow’s-footed, jangle-by-numbers single fulfills other than a contractual
obligation designed to draw the HMV-frequenting masses to the far
more intriguing long player.
As a brisk tempo is set by the featherlight
drums and cheery 80s synths, in comes the familiar swirly,
echo-chamber guitar like a long-lost college mate doing his infamous
windmill dance while holding a pint of snakebite, followed by
dear old Robert Smith, sounding more than ever like Angela Lansbury.
You suspect he’d much rather be pontificating
about mortality, existentialism and the pensions crisis than
“Tonight I climb with you/Tonight/So high with you/Tonight/Oh
I’m so alive with you” yet he does so with a grim determination
as if to prove rumours about him going to bed at 10.30pm with a Daphne
Du Maurier novel are wholly unfounded.
6/10 by Anna Britten
(Thanks Andrew)
"From the same label that brought us "15
Imaginary Songs," Equinoxe is set to release a brand new Cure
tribute called "Our Voices." The release
date is expected to be in October, and the
track list is:
01. Lizard Smile - Burn
02. ShamRain - Charlotte Sometimes
03. Silvery - Other Voices
04. Sanguis et Cinis - Friday I'm In Love
05. Floodland - A Forest
06. [f.e.v.e.r.] - Disintegration
07. Bloodflowerz - Inbetween Days
08. EverEve - Cold
09. The Unpleasant - Plastic Passion
10. The Fair S. - The Walk
11. One Last Fix (ex-Meridian) - Lovesong
12. Cine Muerte - Close To Me
13. Stereoskop - Primary
14. Prayers For Rain - Just Like Heaven
15. Second Skin - Pictures Of You
16. Volstad feat. Fernando Ribeiro (Moonspell)
- Apart
17. Marina Sirtis - Wailing Wall
CD 2:
01. Tanzwut - Lovesong
02. Violet - Kyoto Song
03. Unto Ashes - The Drowning Man
04. The Escape - Seventeen Seconds
05. Neon Dream - The Caterpillar
06. Illuminate - A Night Like This
07. Curious - Siamese Twins
08. Ikon - A Strange Day
09. Lethargy - Pictures Of You
10. Psyche - Faith
11. Celluloide - Three Imaginary Boys
12. Final Selection - One Hundred Years
13. FGFC820 feat. Rexx Arkana (Bruderschaft)
- The Hanging Garden
14. Sjukdom - Kyoto Song
15. Terminal Choice - Boys Don't Cry
16. Icon Of Coil - Killing An Arab
17. Midnight Configuration - The Hanging
Garden.
Wait a minute...Troi
from Star Trek:TNG is doing a cover of Wailing Wall? I've GOT
to hear that! : )
(Thanks Rust)
"FYI - the November edition of the
German edition of Rolling Stone Magazine comes with a "Top 500
records of all time" special.
The Cure get five mentions (each spot comes
with a mini-review of the album in question)
#164 "Seventeen Seconds"
# 184 "Disintegration"
# 373 "Pornography"
# 416 "The Cure" (what? ;-))
# 467 "Head On The Door"
the only acts who have more records in the
Top 500 are The Beatles, Led Zep (six each), REM, Rolling
Stones (seven each), Elvis Costello, Neil
Young (eight each), Bob Dylan (ten)."
(Thanks Carsten)
"Couple things from launch at yahoo; charlotte
sometiemes video was ranked number 21 on their 25 scariest
videos list. you can also watch
and vote for alt.end on this weeks "dig it
or dis it" poll."
(Thanks Elyse)
"I caught the acoustic version of 'A Forest'
during the Dave Ramsey talk show yesterday. In the last few
months, they've played 'Friday I'm in Love' and 'High'. "
(Thanks Patrick)
"Just a bit of a quote from Billy
Corgan in an article about his new poetry book in the 10/26
Ottawa Citizen:
"The Cure, look at what's going on with the
Cure now. The Cure have been so good for so long that at some
point people go, 'OK, you're great.' And all those years of Robert
(Smith) being made fun of in interviews, it's all going away now.
It's all done. So it's all adding up, and for me it's kind of the same
thing. The work at some point surpasses the wild Billy, pain-in-the-ass-caricature
that at some point I turned into."
(Thanks Lenore)
"From the October 2004 issue of Men's Health
(a US magazine) an article about how women are increasingly
choosing to raise a family with or
without a husband:
"...I don't want to be with someone who isn't
into watching 'The Big Lebowski' [a Coen Brothers movie, starring
Jeff Bridges] for the fourth time, who has no idea that Johnny
Cash and the Cure are cool all over again."
(Thanks Bevon)
Oct. 26th
Very sad news today, as legendary
DJ (and so much more) John Peel has died:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/041026/325/f5bhp.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3955289.stm
"John was a huge musical influence on my
life. Robert recently said that he was a 'life blood' So,
I'm remembering the years from 1978 onwards that I used to listen
to the radio in the dark on a school night in my bedroom, walls
covered in posters of the bands that he was playing on the radio,
from 10pm - 12 each night. Hoping my parents wouldn't hear me as I
recorded such great 'Peel' sessions broadcast by the likes of The Cure,
SLF, The Smiths, The Clash, The Ruts, Joy Division, The Undertones,
Siouxsie, Bauhaus, Altered Images, Slowdive and so many more great and
important bands. From Punk, Alternative, Indie....it's impossible to
name them all. I was lucky enough to meet him about 10 years ago
whilst in the South of France at a music conference. He was drinking
a can of lager at 10am and I told him that he was a huge influence on
my life. He thanked me and took another swig of lager!
John Peel RIP."
(Thanks Chris)
The Cure's Peel Session from
1978 was scheduled to be aired tonight on the John Peel
Show. Don't know if they'll go ahead with it, but you'll want
to listen to the show anyway. 11pm - 1am GMT on BBC1.
(Thanks Pietro)
Oct. 25th
Cure specials on MTV Australia:
"Just a quick
note to advise fans of the upcoming Cure specials on MTV (for
Australian Foxtel & Optus subscribers)
Sunday November 14th - MTV (times are
EDST)
---------------------------------------------------
12pm: MTV Icon - The Cure
1pm: MTV Unplugged - The Cure
2pm: MTV Live - The Cure
2:30pm Making the Video - Taking Off
3pm Collections - The Cure
MTV Icon also plays on November 8th (11pm),
10th (7pm), 13th (5pm)
(Thanks Dave and
Zanna)
'alt.end' enters US single
sales chart at #5:
"Check out this link : http://www.canoe.ca/JamMusicCharts/us_singles.html
(This is purely sales from Nielsen Soundscan
and not the Billboard Hot 100 which includes both sales and
airplay)"
(Thanks Andrew)
Cure tribute in Oklahoma City:
"My band is playing
a cure tribute show this Saturday, Oct 30th, at the Blue Note
Lounge in OKC. I was hoping you could post this link, http://www.thesilentissue.com/
and help us get the word out. We are only a three piece,
so we will be playing earlier material for the most part."
(Thanks George)
"Friday I'm in
love has entered the UK itunes Music Store Top 100 songs
chart at No.92."
(Thanks Andrew)
"WEA is releasing
Jimmy Page & Robert Plant's "No Quarter: Unledded" on
DVD this Tuesday. Robert Plant writes in the booklet: "With Hossam
Ramzy's and Ed Shearmur's diligence in
arrangement with the Egyptian Ensemble and London Metropolitan
Orchestra respectively and Michael Lee, Charlie Jones and Porl
Thompson providing the foundation, "No Quarter" proved to be an
incredibly exciting and emotive adventure." Porl
Thompson is featured in quite a few of
the performances on the DVD."
(Thanks Rust)
Oct. 22nd
News about today's taping
for the Taratata show in Germany:
"The Cure appeared
live at the 'Taratata' show playing 'Taking Off' and Boys Don't
Cry'. The show will probably be aired on the 11th or 18th
December on the German broadcasting station
SAT.1. The Cure entered the show area already when the showmaster
will still into a talk with Ronan Keating, and that was all
the time interrupted with cheers and applause for the waiting
Cure members, although the fans brought up a maximum of discipline
not to spoil the interview; but of course that wasn't easy because
3/4 of the audience were Cure fans. Between the songs Robert was
invited for a talk, too. Teh showmaster asked him questions like what
he thought about newspaper articles saying every week that he has
died. Robert replied that the most ridiculous death he was told to
have died was jumping into an empty swimming pool. And that in former
times he bet that he could get round a hotel only by climbing from one
balcony to another. He admitted to really have done that. "But that was
Robert number 1," he smiled, "he probably fell off the balcony."
And he was asked what he did to make his
nephews and nieces draw the pictures on "The Cure", e.g. if
he begged or forced them to draw them.
Robert replied smiling that he has got
them in a little dark room at home.
There was a rumor that he might sing "Nothing
Compares To You" in a duet together with Dolores O'Riordan,
but it remained a rumor. At the end of
the show, the band appeared on stage for
the 'final' together with all the other artists."
(Thanks Christian
H.)
"Sascha, Friend of mine, was at the "Taratat"
taping today and told me via Phone Cure played "Taking off"
and "Boys don't Cry" there."
(Thanks to u-a-b-f
at Cure Concerts)
"I got info concerning the cure gig in
the "taratata" show. The broadcast is scheduled for December
this year. Unfortunately I don't know when, but as soon the
TV Show Magazine is out, we will know it.
It should be something special, then
the show (a french one) is famous for the exeptional Live
Performance of each Band/Singer."
(Thanks Reto)
The Cure's appearance on the
Tim Lovejoy show (on Sky One) has been rescheduled for Oct.
27th.
If you missed Robert filling
in for John Peel last night, you can now listen to it at
the BBC
website and see his playlist. Also, you can listen to
the Razor Cuts interview from Oct. 17th at Virgin Radio.
(Thanks Federica)
Update: "In response to Dave's 10/22
mail.
Sorry to say that Dave, you mislead us
with this red (beautiful though) National "Newport 88 "...
Here is the real thing if you really want
to ape Robert Smith : a 1960's National Val Pro black "Glenwood
99". You'll note the price difference
(these model were National's top-of-the-ladder).
National guitars are pretty difficult
to identify, and even if the one shown in the link below
is considered by the seller as a "Newport 88", this is something
I totally disagree with. But who cares ? This IS the REAL thing
!!! Here are the facts :
A good Cure fan should always remember
what P. DUBREUILLE - a French luthier who made guitars for
Robert and Porl - said about Robert's
guitars : "if they are not black, he sends
them back to the factory...". You may see one of these guitars
on the DVD "Making The Cure" : in fact
it's the one Robert uses on "The Promise".
To give you more details and proofs about Robert's black guitars,
also remember Robert used a red
Gretsch "Tennesse Roses" (WMS-era) before
choosing Grestsch black "Silver Falcons" (Bloodflowers-era).
As for this National (see link below),
I'm quite sure Robert would have a go for this one especially
because it's the exact clone of the one he's been using for 15
years (since Disintegration, as far as I remember). You may admire
this model on the "Trilogy" DVD, and it will give you a better
idea...
Only remaining trouble : I wouldn't write
all this if I could buy it (I'd better keep my mouth shut...
These are rare bloody models, especially in this perfect shape
!). But my banker won't agree this time (At least he was kind
when I bought a white one about 10 years ago) !
Sorry to get technical, but these might
be useful guidelines, were you interested in getting one
of these :
1) Never forget that National Val Pro
didn't use trussrods, and that the neck may have warped during
the last 40 years... which make them case
unplayable guitars and surely worth nothing
but leaning in a collector's glass cabinet. Be careful if
you want to invest and make sure the neck is straight !
2) These guitars' bodies were made of
Reso-Glass, not wood. You might be surprised (or even disappointed)
if you expect them to sound like a
usual Fender or Gibson.
3) Never buy a National without it's original
case. These case are just as beautiful as the guitar they
held... it would be a shame to miss it !
Enjoy the picture !
http://www.gbase.com/gearlist/guitar_picture.asp?guitar=555083"
(Thanks
Dave and Lina)
'Taking Off' video on Australian
tv:
"Rage (ABC)
will be airing the video for 'Taking Off' tonight (22/10)
just before midnight - EST."
(Thanks Zanna)
Cure specials on MTV Portugal:
"MTV Portugal
will be showing, next Sunday 24th, starting at 2 pm, many
Cure specials, including Fanography, All Eyes on The cure, MTV
Icon,
Rockumentary, Making a video and MTV
Live."
(Thanks Claudio)
More pre-order links for
3IB:
CD ON - Eur 23.95
CD Wow
(Germany) - Eur 17.99
CD Wow
(UK) - £10.99
Play
(UK) - £12.99
Amazon
(Canada) - CDN $25.99
(Thanks Dennis,
Jan, Andrea and Iqbal)
"This is
IVAN VALLS (aka. spanishcure), as i told you in an old
e-mail, our Forum (in spanish), HISPACURE.TK is now the NEW
OFFICIAL THE CURE FAN CLUB in SPAIN supported by UNIVERSAL
MUSIC SPAIN.
Next saturday 23th October we'll have
a really special THE CURE Party in Valencia (Spain), in
a disco Called REPUBLICCA.
In this party we'll present the new
singles and videos TAKING OFF and ALT. END and we'll have
a really special contest to win many exclusive
the cure promotional stuff (t-shirts,
cd singles, stickers, posters, etc.).
The party will start at 0.30 am and
we'll have the collaboration of the official spanish DEPECHE
MODE FAN CLUB (LOSTMYSELF DM FAN-CLUB), they will present
the new DEPECHE MODE REMIXES ALBUM (1981 - 2004), So we'll have
a really special THE CURE VS. DEPECHE MODE PARTY !!!
And one more thing: the people who
print this flyer will have FREE ENTRANCE at the disco's door
. . . so it's a perfect moment to celebrate
our new official fan club (hispacure.tk)
in a great disco with the best music, gifts and all Totally
FREE . . .
More info: www.hispacure.tk
and
www.iespana.es/spanishcure/republicca.htm
"
(Thanks Ivan)
"Robert is quoted on an article today
on italian national Newspaper Repubblica about the U2 new
album being available on new special edition's Ipod: "Non verremo
fuori dalla crisi se non cominceremo a rendere disponili le
nostre canzoni via internet a prezzi popolari", ci aveva detto
Robert Smith dei Cure alla presentazione del nuovo album della
band, appena qualche mese fa. http://www.repubblica.it/2004/j/sezioni/spettacoli_e_cultura/u2ipod/u2ipod/u2ipod.html"
(Thanks Federica)
Oct. 21st
The Cure recorded their appearance
for the Later with Jools Holland show on Oct. 19th. They
did 'Taking Off' and 'Boys Don't Cry'. The show will air
on BBC2 tomorrow night (Oct. 22nd) at 11:30pm.
Update -
They also did 'alt.end'.
(Thanks
Andrew, Chris, Cherry Tree and Stephan)
"Kirk McLeod
has done a solo piano and vocal version of "Boys Don't Cry"
on his album "So Piano." It's quite a nice reading, and very
different
than the usual pop-punk versions
that you come across frequently."
(Thanks Rust)
"THE A.M.
is said to be between the glamour of ROXY MUSIC and the
new wave of THE CURE by Les Inrocks, while CLOVER seems to be
closer to THE CURE and THE CRANBERRIES for Longueur d'Ondes, two
music magazines here in France."
(Thanks Fabien G)
"Just wanted
to let you know that The University of Penn's Philadelphia
station 88.5 XPN recently had a list of the Top 885 songs
of all time.
Anyway, The Cure made the list with
at least two songs that I know of; at #414 with Pictures
Of You and at #203 with Boys Don't Cry."
(Thanks Andrew)
"Found a little write up about
Micheal Dempsey in the December 2004 issue of Guitar World's
Bass Guitar magazine (with Sid Vicious on the cover).
In an article called "50 Greatest Punk Rock Bass Lines".
"36. "Killing An Arab"
The Cure
Bassist: Micheal Dempsey
Album: Boys Don't Cry
Dempsey's bass line makes this song
about killing a random stranger seem both catchy and meanacing.
The Cure's first single, "Killing An Arab"
reveals how the band's yin-yang tendency
to swing between gloomy dirges and pop sensibilities were
present from the start. Dempsey left the Cure shortly
after completing their first album to join the Associates.
His replacement, Simon Gallup, is still in the band."
(Thanks Amy)
"I'm a teacher
- and the kids watch this kids-news station called Channel
1 - its a closed circuit tv program provided at most public schools.
We watch it during homeroom.
Anyway - they always have music playing
throughout the program - and before and after commercials.
They played the intro to alt end leading out to a commercial
break! HA!
I was sitting at my desk grading
papers and heard that - and was like - did I just hear
that? Too funny. Well, they are TRYING to reach
the kids.... the kids had no clue of course though."
(Thanks Christina)
Not at all Cure related, but
I'll never pass up a chance to promote Rilo Kiley. Just saw them last night
here in New Orleans, and they were excellent! Jenny Lewis
is just the best! Do yourself a favor and go see them if they're
playing close to you. Here's their remaining tour dates:
10.21.04 Houston, TX The Engine
Room
10.22.04 Austin, TX Emo's
10.23.04 Dallas, TX Good Records
(in-store)
10.23.04 Denton, TX Hailey's
10.26.04 Tucson, AZ Club Congress
10.27.04 Phoenix, AZ Rhythm Room
10.29.04 San Diego, CA Epicentre
10.30.04 Pomona, CA The Glass House
10.31.04 Los Angeles, CA The Mayan
(Special Halloween show with costume contest)
Oct. 19th
VH1
has posted the 'alt.end' video. And now the Geffen site has it too.
(Thanks
killingtime aka Kristy and Lenore)
Photo and audio
of The Cure & Placebo doing 'If Only Tonight We Could
Sleep' at the Canal + 20th anniversary show:
(Thanks
to Alf! at the Bionic Forum
and Andreas)
Another new Robert interview:
"Hi.
Just to report on a short interview i caught on sunday,
if you haven't had a run-down yet. This was on UK tv
(Channel 4) and was a promo for the new single. Robert was
on his own and looking typically uncomfortable but talked happily
enough about the US tour and the bands involved, and the process
of creating albums and music with The Cure.
Highlight was the response to
the question about hobbies outside of making music (in
response to him saying that the mian reason the output of
The Cure had slowed over the years was that he had developed a
life outside the band). Astronomy was Robert's big interest
and he explained that he had moved out of london 10 years ago
in order to get a clearer view of the night sky. He also lives
very close to the famous astronomer-type Patrick Moore and shares
the same curry-house (they can squint at each other across the
restaurant)! Quite amusing when the female presenter
asked him if he was therefore into star-signs, and Robert pointed
out that no, that was astrology..."
(Thanks
Rich)
The 'Taking Off' single has
been delayed until Dec. for Germany:
"Taking
off has been pushed back until begin of december (www.thecure.de). No exact release
date yet, no reason why :-(
Also there is an interview with
Robert in the german (only interview) magazine "Galore".
Nothing new as it happened in May this year. Unfortunately
I don´t have a scanner."
(Thanks
Guido)
"Robert was on an MTV2 commercial
last night. The screen just read Robert Smith "labels,"
with him saying: "You see, I'm so anti-label culture. It really
is one of the things that drives me around the bend. Clothes have
become like a defining thing. Clothes are rubbish. Designers are
idiots. I'd rather be dead than wear a designer label. I honestly
think that people who wear designer clothes are just fools. They really
are. And the whole thing, to encourage people ... looking like everyone
else, wearing what everyone else is wearing, is the antithesis to
everything that you should aspire to. You should just buy [or try]
to be an individual, not to wear the same as everyone else."
This was on during Subterranean
with Interpol as guests (repeated tonight at 1 a.m. CST).
Host Jim Shearer asked: You guys did Curiosa this summer,
handpicked by Robert Smith. Was it a good time?
Paul Banks: It was a great time.
It really was a lot of fun.
JS: Did you get to hang out with
him at all?
PB: Yeah, we did, we played poker
with him. (Another band member adds, "Poker and blackjack.")
'Cause he taught me how to play poker. (Someone says, "He's
a shark!") 2-card draw poker which is like an easier way if
you're going to play with 10 people. We had a big card party a couple
of occasions.
JS: So with 10 people, who would
all play?
PB: It was us, some of the guys
from Mogwai, him, the manager from The Cure, a few other
people. (Someone says, "Michael, his bodyguard.")
JS to Carlos D: Did you play because
I heard you don't gamble?
C: I watched, I didn't participate.
Robert actually did try to get me to play on several occasions.
He tried really hard.
PB: Robert really wanted you to
participate.
C: I was really trying to convey
to him just how sad it made me that he was trying to get
me to do something that I was staunchly opposed to. Because
it's Robert Smith, so I think many people would compromise their
morals for Robert Smith, but I wasn't prepared to, but it hurt
nonetheless that I wasn't able to do that."
(Thanks
Lenore)
"According
to NME the Cure feature on the cover of a new NME special
edition magazine 'Goth'. Apparently in the shops now although
I've yet
to see it. More at http://www.nmeoriginals.com/archive.php?show=1097708400"
(Thanks
Ian)
Oct. 18th
Toronto Curiosa show now online:
"The Sympatico high-speed
broadcast of the Toronto Curiosa show is up.Try http://speed.sympatico.ca/msn/startcast/music/concerttour/index.html#
It does say 'member exclusive' for Sympatico high-speed
customers, I'm not sure if others can hack it or not,
but it's certainly interesting for those customers. I'm
watching it as I type this, it's streaming at 500k and is very
high quality!"
Update: "You can see the entire show
opening this url (http://events.startcast.com/events/10/B0028/code/media/asx.asp?part=13&bitrate=500_v)
with windows media player. "
(Thanks
Francisco, heather the buzzard and Jen)
Report from Olivier Hartmann
on The Cure events in Paris:
Two
Days with The Cure in Paris
Le Grand Journal
The Cure's visit to Paris started
on Thursday 14th with the taping of Le Grand Journal TV
show at 2 PM at Canal+ studios. I couldn't attend but
got reports from a couple of
people and just watched a tape of the show which aired
last night. The show is usually live but this particular
one was taped to accommodate the two guests: Robert and 60s/70s
French singer Sylvie Vartan. Robert was wearing a nice
black suit that looked very much like the one he wore in the
Cut Here video. Among the usual trivia and recurring questions,
the most interesting statement was that "possibly after Christmas"
the band would start touring Europe (believe it or not).
And now we know that Robert's favorite French wine is Meursault.
(No pun intended?) After the show he was as usual very nice
and stayed for a long time chatting with fans and signing autographs.
Les 20 ans de Canal+
Canal+ was the very first privately
held TV channel to be launched in France on Nov. 4th,
1984. With the exception of a couple of free daily
shows at lunch and dinner time, you need to own a box and pay
a monthly fee to watch their programs. So they refer to
their viewers as "subscribers". To celebrate their 20th
anniversary, they had rented out Le Zénith in Paris
on Thursday evening and invited 4,000 of their subscribers to a private
show with lots of special guests and the entire staff and TV stars
that had gone through the station for the past twenty years.
Gates opened at 7 PM sharp. Those without a ticket had no trouble
finding one for a few bucks or even for free. The audience was
seated except for maybe 100 of us standing next to the set (which took
up most of the pit). We had to go through a two-hour(!) documentary
on the history of the channel played on five giant screens before
the show started at 9 with Placebo. Among the rest of the performers:
Les Rita Mitsouko & Vanessa Paradis, Juliette Greco & Feist,
Calogero & Passi, Henri Salvador, Youssou'Ndour & Neneh Cheery,
Keziah Jones, Rachid Taha, Saian Supa Crew, Mickey 3D & Jane Birkin
and IAM. They usually played only one song, some of them two,
with six duets in all.
The Cure came in a little before
11 and started with Taking Off. Robert was still
wearing his suit and I believe that Roger and Perry were also
wearing theirs. We knew what was coming next because Robert
had already mentioned it (off-camera) to the fans at the Grand
Journal taping but it
was still stunning to see Placebo
come and join them on stage for a version of If Only
Tonight We Could Sleep... with three guitars, two
basses, one keyboard, a drum set and one tambourine! Robert
and Brian Molko started with alternated singing and joined voices
for the end of the song. I'm sure it happened other times
but the only time I can remember seeing The Cure playing with
another band on stage was with the Cranes in 1992, I think in Liévin,
France, when Alison was sick and Robert played her vocal parts with
his guitar. Anyway, the Canal+ show will air on Nov. 4th
for subscribers only and there should be a rerun for us non-subscribers
sometime around Christmas.
Black Session chez Lenoir (Friday)
Jeez, what a mess! I knew
it would be quite a challenge getting in without an
invitation but I never imagined there would be so much adrenalin
in the air before the show. The lucky winners of
the France Inter radio station draw had been told to come at 5:30
PM for a show scheduled to start an hour later so I showed
up at the Maison de Radio-France at 4 and found about thirty people
already there, including one guy that had been there since 10 AM and
had started a waiting list he intended to hand over to security once
all of the rightful guests had been allowed in. I dutifully
registered. However, one stern woman clearly in charge of the
whole thing repeatedly came outside to tell us that there was no chance
whatsoever that anyone not invited would get in the 250-seat studio
and please go home now.
Meanwhile, the crowd started
gathering very slowly and since rehearsals were not over,
although the band had been there since 3:30, the doors
opened late. Security
let people in only five at a time and checked their names
against a list (which started out being incomplete but was rectified
later, causing more confusion) based on national ID cards
or passports. One poor guy that had only a social security
card (not a photo ID) was rejected and sent home. I went
in just in case I was on the guest list (apparently wasn't but
I never knew for sure) and went back in line. The process
took forever and the show had already started even though there still
were winners being checked in. At some point the woman in charge
came back outside and asked for the last winners to come in.
Once they had been through, she counted a dozen extra people,
including lucky me, and let them in the building, bypassing the
lengthy check in and wristband process, and directed them to the
studio.
There was more security there,
asking those with a backpack to go check them at the cloakroom.
I had one so I had to, while others were getting
in to the sound of the End of
the World. Just when I came back and was about
to enter the studio, the fire department decided that the
place was packed enough already and that they would not allow
anyone else inside as per safety regulations. We were
eight or nine in that situation, right outside the door, hearing
the muffled sound of the band playing. Someone alerted
that same woman and she came over and discussed it with the head of
security and then had to apologetically ask us to leave! One
guy lost it then and started yelling that he had an invitation and
had just been stalled at the cloakroom and that this was just the most
messy thing he had ever seen (nobody denied that) and just stormed out.
The others were politely asked to leave again. So they did.
I told the woman that I had
friends inside and was there anywhere I could stay and
wait for them and she motherly told me, as I was the only one
left (never ever give in), that I could just wait right there outside
the studio door. After maybe five minutes some girl came
out, went to the cloakroom and simply left. I asked if
I could maybe just get in instead, please? One friendly
security guy asked me to wait a while and in the end ushered me
in. I was shocked to see that at least three or four seats were
empty. But I had finally gotten in after missing (only) 30 minutes
of a 90 minute show! I won't complain in any way for myself
-how could I?- but what about the folks that were asked to leave
when they were right outside the door of the studio? That's
got to be the most heartbreaking thing to ask a fan, especially after
having been led to believe that you had gotten in at last.
Well, I entered the studio during
Taking Off, settled down and then enjoyed the show with
glee. I had not witnessed the problems with The End
of the World (they had to start over three times until they got
it right! - Robert's fault, he said himself) but the rest of the
show seemed pretty tight to me, with a great rendition of Primary.
The studio was shaped like a small college indoor square amphitheater
(if that makes any sense) which you entered at the top of very steep
stairs. I was told that right before the beginning of the
show, Robert had climbed those stairs up from the stage while people
were still getting in late and just surveyed the whole place from the
top while bewildered fans passed him by on their way down, wondering
whether this was a very well-done clone or the real thing.
He looked amused, smiled, and got back down to start playing.
Here's the full setlist:
Plainsong, High, A Night Like
This, The End of the World (started three times), Charlotte
Sometimes, Lovesong, Taking Off, Primary, Jupiter Crash,
Us or Them, Closedown, Before Three, From the Edge of the Deep
Green Sea, A Strange Day, alt.end, Disintegration
Encore 1: (not played) M, Play
for Today, A Forest
Encore 2: (played) If Only Tonight
We Could Sleep..., The Kiss
Encore 3: (not played) Going
Nowhere
The show was 1 hour and 30 minutes.
And I must add that The Kiss
was simply brilliant.
(Thanks
Olivier)
And another review from the
Le Grand Journal taping:
"My friend and I went to
Canal + Studios with a friend of us to see Robert. Here
is my testimony :
Robert was absolutely GREAT
and on top form !!!!!!!!!!!!! He wore an EXCELLENT
BRIGHT BEAUTIFUL make up and his hair was like it was in
the best days of The Cure carreer, like in 1991/1992. He was really
slim, much more than in the 2004 pictures, he actually looked
like he was in his best days. He even seemed younger than he used
to be since 2000 !!!!!!
I was really STUCK IN ADMIRATION
(“just like the old days”). He was very vivacious, very
funny. It was quite a delight to see and hear him
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He was really
cute !
The emcee asked him what he
thought about fashion. Robert answered that he wasn’t
really into it, and that he would be more probably the opposite.
He told “Look, i’m wearing the same old clothes i wear since
20 years ...”
The emcee tried to trap him
saying The Cure brought a new fashion, its own. And
that Curefans looks like him. Robert old “It depends on what
you are meaning by “fashion”. I’ against stylist’s fashion.
I think you’ve got to make your own style, to be original.”
Later the emcee tried to provocate
Robert, saying “ We will now see what will b fashion for
the next summer, won’t we Robert ?”
I booed with some others, the
emcee.
The emcee asked Robert why he
said many times “this is the last album we’ll make” in
inerviews for years. Robert answered he wants to think this
is the one. He wants everybody in the group think it is too.
As he don’t want people to consider one album as the one before
the next. He wants veryone to consider a Cure album for what it is,
not as a serial making.
He added “This album is the
best today. I hope the next will be good too”
Aside by that he didn’t talk
at all about the next album. Maybe she’s right, but i
didn’t hear what Muriel heard, about Robert talking about waiting
some more for the next album.
Robert told about the tour.
He told The Cure have made a US tour last summer and that
they will probably make a european tour wth some dates
in France but not before the
1st of january.
When the broadcast programme
was over, we all ran to Robert. I asked him an autograph
and I told him “Robert ... I wanted to say that I completely
agree with what you told about fashions” .
He answered me “Thank you. It’s
great ! But that’s something very dificult to say in
Paris”
(meaning Paris is one of the
fashion cities)
Robert was very calm. He took
the