4Tour World Tour 2007 - 08 
  
 
 
June 20th, 2008 - New York, NY (Madison Square Garden)

Underneath The Stars, Prayers For Rain, A Night Like This, The End of the World, Lovesong, To Wish Impossible Things, Pictures of You, Lullaby, Fascination Street, From the Edge of the Deep Green Sea, The Perfect Boy, Hot Hot Hot, The Only One, Wrong Number, The Walk, Sleep When I'm Dead, Push, Friday I'm In Love, Inbetween Days, Just Like Heaven, Primary, Shake Dog Shake, Charlotte Sometimes, One Hundred Years, Baby Rag Dog Book

1st encore: If Only Tonight We Could Sleep, The Kiss
2nd encore: Freakshow, Close To Me, Why Can't I Be You?
3rd encore: Boys Don't Cry, Jumping Someone Else's Train, Grinding Halt, 10:15 Saturday Night, Killing An Arab


Total =  35 songs.

Soundcheck: To Wish Impossible Things, Pictures of You, Friday I'm In Love, Sleep When I'm Dead, Wrong Number, Close To Me, Underneath The Stars.

65DOS started at 8:01.
The Cure started at 9:03 / main set ended at 11:08.
Show ended at 11:57.


Show notes:
Chris: "65 bass turned up way too loud. Hurts my chest and inner ear!"
Cat: "Si's arm says HOME"
Cat: "Si looked at kids pix during POY, seemed very sad"
Vince: "rob went on a rant about everything he says at a show ends up on the internet and no one can understand him......"
Vince: "Robert went on to say he is quoted as "blah blah blah blah blah blah" and that he speaks perfectly clearly, 'but not clear enough'"
Friend of COF: "Classic...someone down front is holding up a sign that says cof loves the cure...love it...wish u could have come..."
Cat: "Robert saw COF sign...smiled big"
Vince: "i haven't felt this much energy since the wish tour. robert owns the fucking garden"
Vince: "you can't appreciate this song (Baby Rag) until you hear this shit live"
Vince: "this bassline (Baby Rag) is like if simon kicked you in the fucking face and then smiled, that fucking good"


(Thanks to Olivier, Vince, Cat, Chris, Kate, Spiggy and Rev Heron for the live setlist, notes and photos and to Patrick for the ticket scan)

 


Photos

COF / Sleepydoll / Rev. Heron / Faithdesired / Blainewad / Brilliancy / JLBNYC



 Reviews


I haven’t been abroad to see the Cure since the Wish Tour. I don’t really like stadium gigs so I have had to make do with warm up gigs at Shepherds Bush Empire (in 1997), the Astoria (Bloodflowers warm up) and, of course The Royal Albert Hall in 2006. However, I made the effort for the 4Tour and the Wembley gig was something special so I was pretty worked up before MSG – especially after all that cancelling and re-booking of planes and hotels after the postponement from last September.

First things first, MSG is a great place for a ‘stadium’ gig. Excellent organisation and a good crisp sound. It was also full of real Cure fans – who know the words to most of the songs and don’t just turn up for ‘Friday I’m in Love’ or ‘Lovecats’.

So to the gig itself. I suspected it would be pretty straight as Fuse were filming and it was, with the possible exception of If Only Tonight We Could Sleep and the Kiss as the first encore.

The opening was stunning, the starry backdrop (which I don’t remember at Wembley) and the build up of anticipation with the sounds of crashing waves as the lead into Underneath the Stars. The more I hear this song, the more it reminds me of Uyea Sound from the Lost Wishes Tape – even down to the wave sounds. If it was influenced by these sessions, I hope that the band have delved further into the archives because the song really stands out as the best of the new stuff so far.

The set built from this high point and just got better and better. Porl’s guitar sound adds a real edge – especially on Edge of the Deep Green Sea.  Shake Dog Shake just gets better with age and sandwiched between Primary and Charlotte Sometimes made this the best section of the night for me.

I still can’t quite get my head around Freakshow or the guitar only versions of Hot, Hot, Hot and Why Can’t I be You but the Only One has grown on me and I have recently found myself singing the Perfect Boy (unaccompanied!) when driving, so it must have stuck and I look forward to hearing the album version.

Best of all the new songs (apart from UTS) – Baby Rag Dog Book was a revelation – power and timing of Jason and Simon shudders right through you. I agree with Vince that you just have to hear this song live to appreciate its full effect.

Final encore was pretty much the same as the on I’d seen at Wembley and it rocked just the same. These songs really have moved on from the first time I heard them back in the early 80’s and Porl really knows how to drive them onto a new level.

Robert was pretty upbeat all night and regularly spoke to the audience (TV audience?). All in all the whole experience was upbeat – no Faith (or much else from the Faith album)….maybe tomorrow???


- Darren


Okay, so this is my final review of The Cure for this tour. I have had an awesome amazing incredible time, not only because I saw my favorite
band five times, but because I met some truly wonderful people. I won't go into detail about that now, but the people I have met know who they are, and hopefully they know they are fucking fabulous.

So I will start off on a very slightly negative note, but please understand that it's only because I have become a bit spoiled during my multi-show experience. I was seriously expecting a less standard set than what was delivered at MSG, but then, Fuse was taping, so I suppose I should have anticipated a rather generic set. I was hoping, at least, that during the encores they would toss in a few dark gems or other tasty surprises. I mean, they did play the lusciously ethereal If Only Tonight and the scorching The Kiss, after all, so I really shouldn't complain. And of course all the other songs sounded superb, even if I have heard some repeatedly.

But no matter. There are people who haven't attended any shows on this tour who are probably lobbing profanities at me for even hinting at mild disillusionment, so I'll just STFU right now. Just please understand that yes, there is a downside, however slight, to attending multiple shows, and that downside is that what you want and what the band delivers are sometimes two separate things. You want the band to cater the setlist to YOU, multi-show dork, whereas of course they don't give a flying flip about how far you have traveled or how much money you have spent. They are delivering for the thousands of other attendees who are attending one show. So again, I'll STFU.

Some highlights, musically speaking:

The brooding atmospheric Underneath the Stars gets better with every listen. I love the contrast of the deeply layered guitars and the soothing whispery vocals. Musically this song evokes the dreamy constellations like no other I have heard. The heavy, loudly ambient guitars truly elicit the gravity of the cosmic experience, and the lyrics match the music masterfully. Best Cure song ever? I report, you decide.

The Edge of the Deep Green Sea always tantalizes, with its infinite length and absolutely blistering guitar solo, courtesy of Patron Saint of Guitars, Porl. Hands in the sky forever is what I'm sayin'.

Baby Rag Dog Book - Holy motherfucking Christ! This was the best, most head-exploding version I have seen yet, and I've seen the song performed three times now. Simon's throbbing, chugging bass, Robert's "flying fingers" guitar parts, the faintly rockabilly strain and blatantly 70s rock vibe - wow! And Robert's vocals were clearer and keener than I had heard them on this song before. Hellz yes muthafuka! That song slaughtered me with its freak-ass intensity.

Push is always a treat live, no matter how many times I have heard it. It gets me pogo-ing like a mad moron and screaming "Go Go Go" like a damn fool. Best live Cure song EVER.

Shake Dog Shake - ya know, I love the freakin' Top, and wish they would play more from it (Empty World would make me all kinds of dizzy happy). But SDS is a searing wacky rocker and I love Robert's vocal embellishments on it.

The Walk - I have actually grown terribly tired of this song over the years, but The Cure have managed to inject new life into it via Porl's delicious mimicking of the key parts. I mean, I do miss the keys on some songs such as Plainsong and Charlotte Sometimes - sorry, but those songs BEG for keys, as masterful as they are in recent versions - but for songs like the Walk, the guitar is a fabulous substitute . Of course, no one could pull it off like Porl. OH! And props to Jason for his fabulous drumming on this song in particular, although on all songs he certainly owns. All the Jason naysayers can fuck themselves. He rocks.

IOTWCS - Um, yeah, this song plunges me into a dreamy reverie. Gorgeousness and gorgeosity rolled into one.

The Kiss - Definite centerpiece of the show. Sorry, but this song SLAYS live with Robert erotically attacking his guitar and making all kindsa dirty faces. I'll just leave it at that, mmmmkay? .

Freakshow - LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LURVE this song. I admit that I am not completely taken with The Only One, although it is nice live, but
Freakshow makes me all kindsa FREAKAY. Anyone who doesn't like it is a moron. Okay, not really, but come ON! It's like an intoxicating concoction of HOTD/The Top/KM/WMS stuff, and yet completely fresh. And Robert singing this song live is a pure joy to watch with his goofy-ass jazzy dances and incoherent babble. Robert, I am trying desperately to learn every word to this song to help you out when you forget the words, k? Indeed, you forgot a few last night and just substituted "yadda yadda." Very cute, though.

Close to Me - Is it me, or is this arrangement of Close to Me fucking awesome? Thought so. Very bouncy little number with Porl's nimble guitar parts providing an invigorating jolt.

Old School Encore never gets old. Period. And Killing an Arab - what the FUCK! It's like insane asylum intense. Brilliant version and it NEEDS to be formally recorded with this line-up. Cure, you done our boy Camus all kindsa proud!

Non-musical miscellaneous highlights:

I was able to get to third row, Simon side, from Prayers for Rain on. I found him a joy to watch, the way he bounces around in his skin-tight attire with a sexy scowl. But I was disconcerted by the writing on his arm - "home" - and also by the fact that he gazed very very longingly at the pictures of his children during Pictures of You. I find that very touching, of course, but it also a little upsetting because the poor guy is clearly yearning for his family. My sympathies go out to him, and I am glad he will be reunited with them soon.

Throughout the show, Robert made jokes about his infamous incoherent blathering. He insisted that he does speak clearly and made a point to
enunciate. I still understand about 1% of what he actually says ("Q" being the most endearing), but I liked that he acknowledged fan frustration with his unintelligible chatter. Indeed, it was fucking funny and he dropped the f-bomb quite a few times. I love his brashness and sinister sense of humor; at one point he said, "Of course, none of it matters in the end because it's all NONSENSE." Quite the existential/nihilistic insight, Roberto. I'm with ya all the way. (Oh, and apparently his guitar is sporting a "Born again existentialist sticker lately - very fucking cool.)

The pop encores are always a treat with Robert's flirtatious interactive playfulness. What a shimmering smile this man has and what magical eyes! And his stage presence during these songs is infectiously bouyant.

The absolute highlight was when Robert saw Christina's "COF Loves the Cure" sign and made a big goofy grin.

The equally awesome absolute highlight was when Christina and I were able to coax the security guard to let us stand up front at the railing so Chris could give him the roses she bough him. The security was fairly tight throughout the show, but in the end, the security guard relented because Chris
was so charmingly persistent. We hugged the security guard for his generosity, something I have NEVER done before. I told him we would love him forever for his efforts. WTF? Have a regressed so far that I have to profess love to a security guard? What has my world come to?

Anyway, after Freakshow, I believe, Chris gestured to Robert to come receive his roses, which he did, very graciously. After he took them, he smiled, and we both screamed like giddy fangirls. Robert seemed both pleased and overwhelmed by our um, frighteningly adolescent indulgences. I am pretty sure Fuse caught us on camera acting like we were hormonally intoxicated pre-teens, but whatever. Lusty Cure femmes unite!

The icing on this proverbially tasty cake was that Robert said, "I'll save this for later" rather seductively, and then placed the flowers onto one of the speakers in the center of the stage, for all to behold. I am very happy for Chris that Robert was so humbly and happily accepting of the flowers.

Also, Robert was able to see Chrstina's COF sign a few more times, which was quite gratifying to us. Craig, I have said it before, but you are the rockingest badass mofo EVER; your site is revered by Cure fans worldwide. Oh, and the COF sign apparently appeared on Fuse TV last night, something we find both exhilirating and hilarious. Can't wait to see the Fuse recording.

So, it was a titillating end to my five-show liason with the Cure. Sure, I wanted a more surprise-laden setlist, but whatever. It's the fucking Cure, and I am very lucky to have caught them live so many times. My bank account might be suffering, and physically I may be spent (just HOW do you do
it, Cure?), but whathefuckever.

I do wish I could attend the RCMH show tonight, but, alas, I cannot. However, I am compensating by attending a show by my other love, Tom Waits, so it's all good. I am sure the RCMH show will have the most thrilling Cure set EVER, loaded with Bloodflowers stuff and Faith stuff, and so on, although I really can't complain since I got the Faith encore in Charlotte. I can, however, complain that I only got one BF song among all the shows I attended. What the hell, Robert? BF is such a beautiful album, and I am DYING to hear more songs from it live. Oh well, maybe next time? PLEASE?

One last thing. A big FUCK YOU to the 9000 foot dude and his goofy groupies for practically ruining the show for me by talking THROUGHOUT. Go fuck yourself, you selfish, shallow piece of shit. I even told you to please stop talking TWICE, and you called me a bitch. Yeah, well you're a dickless piece of crap.  But seriously, this dude and others like him - the people who come for TWO songs (namely FIIL and JLH) and then spend the rest of the time confabulating about their fabulous hair and how much sex they have every day - can kiss my voluptuous derriere. You all collectively SUCK and I hope there is a special place in Dante's hell for you, where you will be forced to listen to Barry Manilow songs full blast for an eternity. Or get
repeatedly jabbed in the ears with a pitchfork. Or perhaps medieval-style torture is what you deserve.

Sorry, but one should just STFU at a Cure concert and LISTEN AND WATCH. Isn't that what we pay precious money for? The Cure are the best live band ever, you morons!

- Clockwise Cat


I approached this show assuming it would be a "pop" show, and that a "dark" setlist would follow at Radio City. So my expectations weren't terribly high for this particular show; I was just looking forward to communing with likeminded fans in one of the most famous venues on earth.

The crowd didn't let me down. It wasn't as great as San Diego, but it didn't outright suck. It was great to see the flood of Curefans descend upon midtown Manhattan; it was clear from several blocks away that the Cure was in town, which created the kind of festival atmosphere I love and have missed thus far on the tour. So many Cure shirts from over the years...so many oldskoolers. It felt like home.

I was confused to arrive at my seat at the back of the main floor only to find it occupied by an MSG staff member who proceeded to thrust a new set of tickets into my hand with the hurried instructions "just walk to the front." Ahhh...OK. So I did. When I discovered that I'd been relocated to the aisle seat of the back row of the very front section, I was...well, I wasn't complaining! A clear view, with no one directly behind me to bitch about the fact that I'll be standing up dancing all night? Perfect.

Turns out the band was filming a DVD of the show, and my original seats would have offered a great view of the cameramen's behinds.

The fans on the floor were spirited and energetic, though it appeared there were a lot of people sitting down in the risers. The setlist was as I expected--a bit poppy for my taste, but everyone else was having so much fun it swept me into the spirit. The DVD filming made it a weird experience, though. The house lights were on more often than they were off, so there was no real continuity to the normally gorgeous lighting design. It wasn't a HUGE deal, but it got kinda annoying after a while.

The band sounded amazing as usual. This was my first exposure to both Baby Rag Dog Book (thumbs up) and Underneath the Stars, the latter of which made a surprising but lovely opening number. I normally don't like when bands open with a slow song--I want to get hit with energy!--but Underneath the Stars has a nice intensity, and the visuals were perfect.

Bottom line: Other than the Underneath the Stars opening there were no big surprises. It was a fine show, but not a standout. Can't wait for tomorrow!
 
- Angel


Just wanted to write in to give my two cents. I'm not going to go into a play by play of every song, but let me just say what I believe to be the highlights of Friday nights show.

First off, UTS was very pretty. So far I'm not loving the new album but this song is gorgeous. The crowd was super psyched, in the beginning at least. We were lucky enough to have 12th row floor tickets which was awesome.

Pictures of You was beautiful as always. So beautiful in fact that my eyes welled up with tears. But anything off of Disintegration has that effect on me. Fascination Street was probably the best I've ever heard it live. It just really rocked. I have to say, I don't miss the keyboards one bit. Well, I do when I realize I didn't get to hear Plainsong but other than that it was a nice change to hear them get back to their roots. The whole show just sounded so much more punky and fun. Robert really seemed to have a lot more fun with the songs too.

The Walk was such a treat! I've never heard it live, and what a live version! It had us all bopping around and dancing. Awesome. Friday I'm In Love, Inbetween Days and Just Like Heaven really put a lot of energy into the show that seemed to be needed as many around me were starting to take way too many beer breaks. One guy even yelled out "PLAY OLD STUFF", and when they did play Primary and Charlotte Sometimes he sat down and looked annoyed. Guess he meant radio hits. Whatever, there's one in every show.

Push was amazing!  What a great song live. So much energy! And Primary, OMFG! This was probably the best song of the night for me. Just so throughly enjoyable and something I never expected to hear.

On the first encore when Robert played IOTWCS he said "This is how I'm feeling right now". I thought uh oh, he's tired and we're not going to
get much more. But then he followed that mesmerizing song with a riveting version of The Kiss which blew us all away.

Of course the obligatory Boys Don't Cry, Jumping Someone Else's Train, 10:15 and Killing and Arab were fun as always, if not a little tired
for me. But throwing in Grinding Halt was a nice twist. Still, I longed to hear Play for Today and Disintegration. But we can't have it all. If only...

In all the show was awesome and very high energy. I think they did a really good job with the setlist and had a really nice mix of old classics and new.

A last note, at the end of the show Robert said he will probably see some of tomorrow night. And if not, he'll see us all again soon.

God I hope so.

- Simone


These are my brief comments on the MSG show last night.

Having seen two shows during the European leg of the tour, I decided not to read any of the reviews of the US tour before attending this show in order to make it a little less predictable.  Luckily for me, the main part of the setlist has changed quite a bit.  It sounds more upbeat, more pop, and includes some powerful new songs.  I hadn't heard them before and I have got to say that they sound good the first time around.

The audience, who wore far too much colour for my liking, seemed to prefer the pop songs (there was quite a bit of singing and dancing) and the house lights seemed to be on more often that I had seem previously at a Cure gig.  I am not going to say what Robert said as he made a reference to his words being on the internet (oops, I have just done it!).  Anyway, looking forward to the RCMH show.  I hope it is a good one.

- Fab G





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